Running Just Macros on a lower-powered machine!

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Running Just Macros on a lower-powered machine!

Hey all,

I was wondering if anyone had any experience (successfully or otherwise) running JM on a low-powered machine.

I'm thinking about using something along the lines of the the Azulle Access Plus (https://azulletech.com/product/access-plus-fanless-windows-mini-pc-stick/), or a similar sized device, and I was checking to see if anyone tried already.

I can't seem to see any system requirements for JM, and it seems that ATEM software panel just needs a 64bit Win10 software to run it.

Any thoughts or similar setups?

Thanks!

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Yeap, that's an Intel ATOM

Yeap, that's an Intel ATOM (or x32 compatible CPU) so JM will run fine on there. As long as you have windows (any version that supports Win32s) you can run JM. Theoretically you can run it on Windows 3.11 for Workgroups with the Win32s extensions. And BMD Supply a 32bit API, so although officially I always say, install the BMD software pack, you actually only need a few megabytes of API DLLs. I doubt the BMD software will go back further than Windows XP or even Windows 7, as they rely on Microsoft C++ redistributables. As do the Luas DLLs I ship with JM. (Lua is Open Source and you could compile them with a gcc or Borland compiler and get back to windows 3.11 With Win32s most likely).

johnbarker wrote:

I can't seem to see any system requirements for JM, and it seems that ATEM software panel just needs a 64bit Win10 software to run it.

So to simplify the answer, I'd run Windows 7 Embedded on a stick like that, but as long as it runs traditional Windows applications any version should be fine. If you have problems PM me and I'll get you working.

johnbarker wrote:

Any thoughts or similar setups?

Errrr..... Yeah...... and I'll use your topic to make my announcement, and really tie myself into it.

So CPUs are so powerful nowadays, and JM is pretty light weight, it's been long promised for 3 years or more, but I have now promised PI Engineering some kind of Raspberry PI3 JustMacros Plug and Play solution for NAB 2017, like in the next few weeks. It's my top priority. This will be a new branch of JustMacros, that very initially will be available to existing PRO users, but ultimately allows us to enter a new type of deployment.

Although initially you also need a Full Raspberry PI3 costing around £32 from amazon and a SD Card and probably a Case and PSU, so it'll end up costing around £80 I reckon.

However there is also this, which is what has triggered this sprint on a cross-platform, using none BMD SDK/API.

https://www.raspberrypi.org/products/compute-module-3/

It's basically the Raspberry PI3 on a 200pin connector like you'd find in some laptop and small form factor computers for RAM.

So we'd have to have a board designed to expose the HDMI, USB and add a USB-to-Network sub-circuit (Raspberry PI SoC doesn't actually have on-board network), even on the normal PIs, the network is a USB to NIC. But I'd very much like to see, and before too long expect to see, JM being properly embedded into panels this way.

The key thing is to learn Lua and the "JM Way" and design your system, the form factor and cost your deployment takes will be able to come down and down, it's my job to ensure your scripts always do the same thing. 

Side Note: All un-answer topics will be answered in the next 48 hours, don't bump anything until I have commented.

 

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Hi, I'm looking into building

Hi,

I'm looking into building a JM setup with the Xkeys 80 for my Production Studio 4K. I need a low cost solution for both JM and a media player, so I was hoping to use a Raspberry Pi combining both after reading your March 17 announcement.

Is there progress on the Pi build you announced?

 

thanks,

Hans

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Please update us on JustMacros for Raspberry PI3

Hi, John. 
 
I would love to know if there's any development/progress/future plans of JustMacros to run on Raspberry PI3.
 
Any update would help, Thank you

 

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Just use a mini PC

Hard to beat this one.

http://www.pipo-store.com/pipo-x8-dual-boot-mini-pc-2gb-64gb.html

I have used several of these for JM and PowerShell. Only trick is manually getting the ATEM software onto these 32bit machines.

The X-9 version is also nice with the larger screen. 

I run Arduio's off these for GPIO and also connect MIDI devices for controlling the ATEM from JM or PowerShell.

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This Pipo devide looks

This Pipo devide looks interesting. I'm looking for such a small unit for controlling the scoring at my CasparCG sports client. It sounds, like you have good experiences....

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I have used both the x-8

I have used both the x-8 (800*600) and X-9. Jut don't expect too much from the touch screen. For this price, and including Windows 10 Home, they are greate for running JM or PwerShell.

I have some custom ATEM software that uses X-Keys and Arduino Tally used on several X-8's.

See video

 

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Touch screen issues or problems ?
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Jut don't expect too much from the touch screen. 

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When I create a custom program with big buttos, it should work - Or not ? Do you have issues or problems ?

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Big software buttons work

Big software buttons work quite well. Don't know if the video I posted above is displaying, but in it you can see me pressing the screen to activate (this is on the X-8).

 

www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHCL8IQ_ZUs

 

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X8 or X9 memory

Hi Ian,

did you use the 4GB or the 2GB version? I'm wondering whether 2GB would be enough.

Regards,

Hans

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I only have the 2Gb*32 and it

I only have the 2Gb*32 and it is fine for running the Atem Sofware control and my PowerShell scripts. If you want to run additional software then more memory might be useful but given it is only 32 bit and Atom Z3736F @ 1.33 GHz you will probably run out of CPU grunt before RAM.

I have fed the HDMI output from the PiPo into the ATEM to run a browser full screen as a video input (720p50) just fine.

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x9s

Thanks Ian,

I ordered an x9s and will report back when I have it set up.

Hans

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I just ordered the 8x to give

I just ordered the 8x to give a try for controlling a CasparCG-scoreboard solution. I hope this will work. In the meantime I have to "compress" my custom software for using with this small display .... ;-)

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